You say Tomato, I say Tomahto

Let’s call the whole thing off….

When help is needed, we must step up to the plate.  Even if that plate has a tomato sandwich on it.     So in light of the recent confession of Hall County Solicitor General Stephanie Woodard in her appeal to the Hall County Board of Commissioners, we here at the Truth decided to lend a helping hand.

So we searched the web and came up with the best recipe for Tomato Sandwiches that we could find.

So here it is.  If you are going to be forced to eat Tomato Sandwiches in a storage room gathered around a little table, we want you to eat the best damn tomato sandwiches you can possibly make!

Best Tomato Sandwich

Makes 1 sandwich

  • 2 slices dense wholegrain bread with lots of seeds
  • 1 medium beefsteak tomato (New Jersey or otherwise), perfectly ripe
  • Mayonnaise
  • Kosher salt and coarsely ground black pepper

Toast the bread to your liking (I like mine nice and crispy, but I know some prefer a lighter toast). Let it cool for a bit while you core and cut the tomato into 1/8-inch slices. Slather one side of each piece of toast with about a teaspoon and a half of mayonnaise (more or less if you like) and layer as many of the tomato slices as you can on top of one one piece of toast. Sprinkle generously with salt and pepper. Top with the other piece of toast, cut in half (vertically or diagonally – the choice is yours, so go wild). Eat immediately, with a side of napkins to catch the tomato/mayo juices that will undoubtedly dribble down your chin.

 

Recipe Provided by Food52.com

 

The Truth

(anybody know someone that will deliver tomatoes to the courthouse?)

 

  28 comments for “You say Tomato, I say Tomahto

  1. Sassy
    June 15, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    That is just wrong. Funny but definitely wrong. Lol

  2. Hugh Akston
    June 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Is that what they are buying at the Subway across the street from the courthouse?

    • The Truth
      June 17, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      No!!! couldn’t have been them at the Subway, they were LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!!

  3. Razzmataz
    June 16, 2011 at 10:52 am

    How many furlough days were Woodard’s folks given?

  4. Slipknot
    June 16, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    “given” ?!?

    You mean “taken”. You make it sound like they received something desirable from the county.

    There is one scheduled furlough day each month. I’m certain that, like myself, several of Woodard’s people have worked on those furloughs just to keep-up with the workload. Anybody ask what the docket load on the courts is currently running? No? Don’t care?

    Consider what county employees are managing vs. their compensation. I doubt many folks would want the job these days.

    • The Truth
      June 16, 2011 at 1:48 pm

      I am glad they have fans, but let’s not over do it. Do you know what they make? My sources say that between the Solicitor, head assistant and the office mrg in the solicitors office they collect over a quarter of a million bucks a year. Ya, $250,000 between the 3. That’s after furlough. How many Tomato sandwiches would that buy?

      • Not the Solicitor General (wink)
        June 17, 2011 at 10:12 am

        Let me get this right – you are talking about an elected official who is a highly experienced attorney, her chief assistant (also a highly experienced attorney), and the office manager (responsible for all non-court personnel), making $250K as if that were somehow outrageous. Do the math – divide by three and that comes out at $83K each average. That doesn’t sound out of bounds at all.

        What sounds crazy – I mean bat guano looney – is Fuller’s secretary making $90K. Or what about Jeff Strickland in the SO – who isn’t even a county employee, he is a contractor – making $150K. And while you are at it check the rest of the SO command staff salaries – from what I hear they are way up there…

      • Not the Solicitor General (wink)
        June 17, 2011 at 10:22 am

        Another thing, when I watch Ms. Woodard talking about her office and those tomato sandwiches, while you talk about the top 3 salaries, keep in mind that office is full of secretaries, clerks, etc. too. While the furloughs may not hit the top 3 so hard, it does for everyone else.

        Make fun if it makes you somehow feel better, but I think Ms. Woodard was standing up for her people – something I quite admire. I don’t remember seeing any other elected official willing to (brave enough) to stand up for their staff.

        • The Truth
          June 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm

          I admire someone standing up for their own, don’t get me wrong. I just can’t wait to see the looks that they get when they are out eating lunch when, according to Ms. Woodard they supposed to be in a mop closet eating tomato sandwiches.
          Face facts, she over dramatized the situation. To be honest, I feel like she lied to the public by doing so. She is an elected official and an attorney and maybe if it were a jury, that bad acting job might have sold. The citizens of Hall County know better.
          My question to Ms. Woodard? Did she turn in her Republican Party card before she made the speech to raise taxes?

          • Not the Solicitor General (wink)
            June 20, 2011 at 11:28 am

            As I mentioned in another thread, I have friends in that office, so I asked… First, it isn’t a mop closet – it is their small office supply room, with a little table and a water cooler. No, it isn’t every employee, and it isn’t every day, but it does happen, where many of the employees, including Ms. Woodard will eat their lunch there. And yes, I have confirmed, sometimes folks do have mater sandwiches. 🙂 So, no, while perhaps overly dramatic, not a lie. I have seen Ms. Woodard speak at other civic events and I can tell that she is a passionate advocate – sometimes even a bit emotional. So while, this whole “tomato sandwich” flap is easy to poke fun at, again I see her standing up for her people. Wish my boss had the guts…

            As far as turning in her Republican Card – I find it entertaining to watch partisans making stands on their party rhetoric, then getting elected and finding reality not so easy. Not so long ago then candidate Obama was standing against every policy of (and seemingly the very being) of GWB, but when elected ended up maintaing Guantanamo, the Bush 41 tax cuts, Patriot Act, etc.

            I am a county employee but I am also a tax payer. I am conservative but I am also realistic. Yes, the HC commish has made some really stupid decisions. Some probably don’t deserve to keep their jobs after the LM building, county attorney fiasco, etc. However, the rest of the county budget has largely been cut to the bone – and the employees now feel the pain. However, all Hall County residents will soon feel the pain. Fewer parks and libraries, reduced ambulance service – this is about to not be the friendly place to live it once was.

            Seriously, the proposal is for ~$100/year increase in taxes. Again, do the math – if you can’t afford $2/week, you have bigger things to worry about. If you want to know a politician who was overly dramatic to the point of lying about this then look at Lutz who said he couldn’t afford this because his budget is already full of ballet and piano lessons.

            I certainly don’t like the idea of more taxes, but please keep in mind, a hero of the Republican party, Reagan had to raise certain taxes too. So, unless being logical and rational is against being Republican, then some times you do have to do things no one likes.

          • Dagny
            June 20, 2011 at 3:24 pm

            Red – “It’s only $100”, It’s only a penny SPLOST, It’s only a 4% water and sewer increase… It’s only one day a month furlough. Come on. It’s always something and you have no right to my money. It is the principle of the thing. The government thinks it should be all things to all people and this has to stop.

        • The Truth
          July 16, 2011 at 12:42 pm

          Tell ‘Em Stephanie. Tell ’em! Just don’t hide while you do it. Redelley86? Just stand up and defend like in the meeting, only change the name to SolGenWoodard!

          • Not the Solicitor General (wink)
            July 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm

            I don’t like the implication of your comment. I have said I am a county employee, that I work in the courthouse, and that I have friends in the Solicitor’s office. I think that Ms. Woodard has shown that she doesn’t have any problem standing up for her people, and courthouse and county employees. So I don’t have a problem standing up in some small way for her. I would bet that if Ms. Woodard had something to say we would know it came from her. However, I am also sure that there are plenty of politicians hiding behind fake names on message boards but I am not one of them. I am just an average county employee trying to serve my community and am getting tired of being told by some on boards like this and the Times that myself and others like me are nothing more than a burden to this county.

          • The Truth
            July 20, 2011 at 4:10 pm

            Ok, Mrs. Woodard, what ever you say. I didn’t “imply”, I STATED. By the way, http://www.theopenproxy.net doesn’t hide anything.

  5. Razzmataz
    June 16, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Slipknot,
    I know that paycuts hurt, my company has handed us one, we didn’t deserve it either.
    So 12 days a year they are not receiving pay for thats 96 hours a year /52 weeks a year which equals 1.8 hours a week.

    So huddling around a table eating tomato sandwiches because you are losing 1.8 hours of pay a week, just sounds ridiculous.

    • Slipknot
      June 16, 2011 at 3:19 pm

      Not when you’re single parent making a clerk’s salary. Anyway, I don’t work there, but I was making the point that many of us work on the furloughs anyway because things have to be done to keep the wheels turning. Add-in the cancelled performance increases, cost-of-living adjustments and retirement contribution… I’m losing about 6k per year. That’s worth a butt-load of mater samiches!

  6. Razzmataz
    June 16, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    Well, all the stuff you listed is different than furloughs.
    Woodward said furloughs have forced her people to eat maters

  7. Dagny
    June 16, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    People in the private sector don’t get automatic pay increases every year and the public sector should not be either. So tell me, with the furloughs and insurance only, are you making $6k less a year?
    I lost my job so I am out a lot more than that. I fell bad that the county employees have had so many cuts but I also know I have no money to give them.

    • Slipknot
      June 17, 2011 at 7:44 am

      Dagny,

      Counting only furloughs and insurance it’s more like 4K/yr. The national averages calculate that local gov’t jobs pay about 2/3 of private sector jobs, but the benefits were better so that made-up for the lower wage compensation. In my professional area the county is now paying about 1/2 of private sector equivalent and the insurance costs are rising ~9%/yr.

      Sorry about your job loss. I know talk of raising taxes seems ridiculous, but the fact is that this county has not kept-up it’s millage rates to support the services needed to adequately service the growth we’ve seen, especially in the south end. Even if they pass the increase, we’re still well below surrounding counties. Folks don’t seem to realize they have been saving on taxes for years that should have been incrementally adjusted upward to accommodate growth every few years. It’s been 12+ years since an increase to support general operations.

      Hence, the internal county functions are, in many departments, now bare bones. I would give more details of where I work, but that would give me away to the watchers… oh, yes…. they ARE watching.

      • The Truth
        June 17, 2011 at 12:17 pm

        Indeed they are watching. But hey, we here at the truth have an anonymous tip line – thetruth@hallcountytruth.com if you ever want to substantiate anything.
        But I have to disagree with you on the 2/3 now 1/2 of private issue. I can not speak for every job in the county, but a large number are a significantly higher than the private sector.

        • SomeDude
          June 18, 2011 at 12:24 am

          For some of the lesser-skilled jobs the salaries are probably closer to private sector, perhaps slightly higher. In my case, when I left the county I asked for a 40% increase from my base salary (what I would have made without furloughs). My new employer had to bump that an additional 8% to get me into the 25th percentile of what they pay my position. And no furlough days. And annual performance-based raises. And cheaper, but far better benefits.

          I’d make a friendly wager that if you polled the last 100 county employees that willingly resigned you’d find at least 50 in similar situations; my situation isn’t THAT unique. The real punch line is that I didn’t leave for the money. I needed a stable environment where decisions are based off of logic and reason, rather than the wants of those that manage to shout the loudest on any given day.

  8. George T
    June 17, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Face it, things are tough all over. We are in a slow economic recovery. It used to be that you worked a govt job for less pay because you had security and benefits. Those times are changing as government pay started to exceed the private sector.

    I am sure that a lot of those Assistant D.A.s are carrying debt from school, but I know a lot of M.B.A.s waiting tables too.

    • The Truth
      June 17, 2011 at 12:18 pm

      “I am sure that a lot of those Assistant D.A.s are carrying debt from school, but I know a lot of M.B.A.s waiting tables too.”

      Or running a political website…

  9. Dagny
    June 17, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    slipknot – The millage has not needed to increase because the homes were being over valued in assessments. That meant more money without a mill increase.
    Now if the county would assess my home at it’s actual value then the increase would not hurt me.

    • SomeDude
      June 18, 2011 at 12:47 am

      Let me see if I understand this:

      A) The current economic crisis wasn’t driven by the real estate market crash,
      or
      B) For the last decade+ your house was over-valued by the Tax Assessor’s office, but you didn’t appeal? And NOW that the BOC wants to raise the millage rate to cover a shortfall (the vast majority of which is going to be predicated on property owners appealing their assessments), you have a problem with that?

      It seems like a fairly simple situation to me. MOST (not all) people didn’t seem to mind having high property valuations when the getting was good and it was “cool” to be able to say they lived in quarter-million-plus dollar homes. They dreamed of Sugar Plum Real Estate Fairies swooping in and handing them a tidy profit when they sold the homes for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars more than they paid. They loved those amenities and value-added services back then, never said a word about building new county facilities so long as it improved their bottom lines. But now that things are settling and the gluttonous economy is purging itself, everybody is clutching each dollar like it’s their last (which if it is, I get that).

      The BOC was negligent in NOT passing progressive incremental millage rate increases in the past, but the fact remains that a lot citizens WANTED those niceties before yet now they don’t want to continue paying for them. To kill them all off now will only prolong the agony and recovery time of the county’s economy, which in turn is going to keep property values down, which in turn keeps people upside-down in their mortgages longer. It’s a vicious cycle, and somewhere along the line people are going to have to take some pain to let the healing start.

      Again, most homeowners are going to get hit for less than $200 per year. Let’s be honest here folks: If $4 a week makes that big of difference in your financial future, you should probably have your stuff packed and just wait for the foreclosure papers to arrive. If your budget doesn’t have that much wiggle room, you’re one flat tire away from being on the street anyway…..

      • Slipknot
        June 19, 2011 at 12:38 pm

        Nice delivery SomeDude.

  10. Just me
    June 18, 2011 at 10:31 am

    I know this is going to get torn to shreds but I have to try and set the record straight for those who are will to listen.

    I work for the county and I can tell you that we are forced to take the furlough day. The offices close for that day. We do not work it. The other employees also have to take 8 hours off each month. How that do that is up to that dept. head. But they can’t not work it either.

    I am not a ‘higher up’. I am a ‘low man on the totem pole’. I don’t make a ton of money. I barely get by. I have children at home and a spouse who has been out out of work for a almost two years and just started working again. (YAY!!) Family insurance is $400 a month. They have raised that twice in the past two years. They have stopped paying their share of the retirement plan and have also changed the retirement plan to a cheaper, crappy one on us.

    So, please understand that we all can’t afford to go out and eat everyday. Subway is cheap enough, and sometimes they offer specials. But, two or three days out of the week I have to pack a lunch. I don’t eat maters sandwiches. I usually bring rice or something else…. salad. But, I think you get the point she was trying to make. She wasn’t talking about the staff that makes good money but the ones that don’t. The ones that make less than $40,000 a year. There are tons of us that work for the county that don’t make that much in one year and still have to pay for health insurance, taxes etc. When the bills come, we’re counting the pennies. I’m not asking for pity, I just want ya’ll to understand were I’m coming from.

    Thanks for ‘listening’.

  11. Dagny
    June 19, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    I have let my views be known to the commisioners and the city council for years. I have been watching them spend while the housing market was crashing around us and they were oblivious to the situation. Businesses are hurting and they continue to add more stress to them.
    As for my home, it is valued for a little more than I paid for it. I did not try to lower it but now, that I have had it for sale for 2 years for far less than I paid for it and it has not sold because I am competing with foreclosures at half the cost, I will fight it.
    My property taxes are several hundred dollars a month and I am out of work. Something has to give or I will lose my home.

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